Thursday, November 29, 2007

Good Times: They Had it Right

Good+Times Good Times: They Had it Right

You know, I feel bamboozled. All my young adult life the TV show “Good Times” represented something negative in popular culture. It was always referred to as a perpetuation of stereotypes, a negative portrayal of black life. Everyone focused on JJ as The Coon. But I had the pleasure to lay up all day one Sunday (with a very hot man, I may add) and watch a Good Times marathon on TV- One and it struck me that: Good Times actually had it right.

It was odd looking at the show again through 2007-colored glasses. So many things stood out to me, especially watching several shows in a row. First, the Evans family probably had the more integrity than any African-American TV family. Ever. Now before you jump in with the Huxtables, I have to say, the Evans are far more impressive because they actually had real life problems. The Huxtables weren’t really struggling like the Evans. I mean the test of a man is how he performs when he’s down right? Well, the Evans were down all the time with constant problems. And these weren’t the Huxtable “the other kids are calling me rich girl”/Gordon Gartrelle problems. These were real life, how-we-gonna-eat problems. There was poverty, VD, unemployment, discrimination, gangs, child abuse, drugs, alcohol, teen pregnancy, illiteracy. I mean, if there was a social issue, Good Times covered it. And the family dealt with these issues always with a focus on family, morality, integrity, strength and just being downright decent. What African American TV family represents those values today? Shit, what white family for that matter?

They had a strong two parent home. James was clearly the leader of the family but he and Florida still acted as a partnership. The kids respected the parents. They weren’t obnoxious smart asses and they weren’t incorrigible troublemakers either. They were regular kids. They were us. Although they were poor, they were hopeful and eager to learn and jump at opportunity.

JJ was a talented artist. What an incredible role model! I mean as silly as JJ was, he was a talent. Where can you find the representation of a talented African-American painter on TV????? He made black art and painting accessible to the world. He showed us a talent and an art form that many of us would have never been exposed to otherwise. He showed poor kids that poverty cannot stifle art or creativity. And JJ being an artist allowed the producers of the show to incorporate the work of real life African-American artist Ernie Barnes (who did all the actual paintings shown). Where can you find African-American artwork on TV today? Do you realize how hot that is???

And Thelma. She was sexy yet classy and like all us women growing up made some mistakes and got into some sticky situations. She was about to marry that African fool, she got felt up by Wilona’s creepy guy-friend. I mean that’s real shit there. But through it all she grew up, stepped up when James died, always handled herself with class and grace, and she had a husband before she had a baby. Who would argue she isn’t a great role model for young women of any socio-economic class?

Ahhhh… and Michael. Little militant Michael. Michael always kept racial issues in the forefront injecting social consciousness into every conversation. And sure, he got a little gay as he grew up (not that there’s anything wrong with that) and his militant rants were soon replaced by cheesy talent show crooning with Penny. But its all good. Michael was the typical city kid. He was militant, excelled in school, strong but respectful of his parents. But he also got involved with gangs, got drunk off Vita-Brite and beat up that fat kid in school that time. He went through what we all go through trying to find ourselves in this world. But through it all he knew that education was the key to his success and that thread ran throughout the show. Where can you find that now?

And as bad as they may have be doing, they never wanted hand-outs, charity, never made excuses. The acknowledged racism but never used it as a crutch. They didn’t give up, they didnt try to get over. They just knew they had to work twice as hard because racism stacked the deck against them. If times were tough James just worked harder. Thelma would work extra hours part-time. Or they would sell underwear out of that big cardboard box. But Florida and James always had a hopeful outlook. They always focused on hard work and its relationship to success. They helped their neighbors and ate dinner together. No one obsessed over entertainers and athletes, bling was a non-issue and a nuclear family was the rule not the exception. Can you imagine what a world this would be if we all embodied the character traits of the Good Times family?

Looking at what we currently have passing for representations of African-Americans on TV, I can’t believe I ever stuck my nose up at Good Times. I bought into the theory that we should write it off as some negative one-dimensional image of black life. An insult, a stereotype. Something we had come too far to look at. An obselete show with no value and no relevance to modern day black people. But that couldnt be more wrong.

Tell you what, watch Good Times. And then look at us now. And then look back at it. And then look at us. Look at our images on TV today and look at Good Times and look at us. Look at MTV and VH-1 and BET and then look at us. Look at the evening news and look at us and then look at Good Times.

And you tell me….didn’t Good Times have it right?

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67 Responses to “Good Times: They Had it Right”

  1. Anonymous on 29 Nov 2007 at 5:08 pm #

    Good Times…very enlightened perspective. As a complementary edition to your account I think the name of the show itself reinforces your point.

    The central theme of the show is the life of a Black family struggling to survive, working to make it out of the ghetto—but the name of the show is good times. Good times need not be defined by possessions or in monetary terms–and most imporant Good Times are not a function of a perfect life or escaping the ghetto–its possible in all situations. It was defined by the Black Family’s experience as a unit which has truly been lost.

    Peace out sista! Keep doing what you do

  2. Anonymous on 29 Nov 2007 at 8:06 pm #

    This is so true. Since the backlash against those shows that showed struggling black people, television shows only very successful, damn-near rich black people with problems that shouldn’t even be problems. I know if I was called “rich kid” at school, I wouldn’t be upset about it.

  3. MO on 30 Nov 2007 at 3:00 am #

    You did it again…great post!!! I think a lot of people rejected Good Times because the creator was white and they didn’t want white folks writing our stories. But Good Times is truly an American classic. The proof is that the reruns are constantly being aired and still remain popular. Thirty years from now, do you think people will want to see reruns of One On One or House of Payne….NOT!

  4. Anonymous on 30 Nov 2007 at 3:53 am #

    I don’t want to see House of Payne now. It’s a disgrace not only to blacks on television but the entire tv industry. It’s basically random foolishness. Dumbest show ever.

    Good Post.

  5. Anonymous on 30 Nov 2007 at 1:31 pm #

    I watched the same marathon and thought wow, we are so misguided and lost today. The Evan’s didn’t watch much tv,play video games, shop for ysl/rl/d&g or any of that foolishness, there was no car,it was fiction but real. They didn’t succumb to the stereotype of a project family i.e. 3 generations of women in the same unit with no man around and all the ghetto ness we have shoved in our faces daily on music videos. Although the creator was white, he had the perfect perspective to be able to pull positive role models out of every story in this poverty stricken family.

  6. on 30 Nov 2007 at 3:25 pm #

    I’m laughing out loud at the memory of Michael Evans’ crooning…LOL. That shit was HILARIOUS(unintentinally, of course).

    You made some great points. I watched the “Martin” and “Good Times” marathons TV One has been doing recently definitely make me smile :)

  7. on 30 Nov 2007 at 3:27 pm #

    Damn…My grammar is all f*cked up in that last comment. I need to go eat some breakfast so I can concentrate! LOL

  8. on 01 Dec 2007 at 7:59 pm #

    This was one magnificent post.

    And one grateful reader. :)

    God. So true. So true.

  9. IVENTBYBLOGGING on 02 Dec 2007 at 4:10 am #

    My #1 all-time favorite show! People couldn’t get past the exterior living conditions…but they were clean, no holes in the furniture, shared what they had with the neighbors (remember Wanda’s rent party? and other fundraisers?) Fla sewed clothes, JJ got his hustle on painting….we always miss it cuz we look at the outside…scratch the surface and discover Good Times will always be timely and set the standard as to what Black Family Love really should be. Great blog adding you to my blogroll :)

  10. IVENTBYBLOGGING on 02 Dec 2007 at 4:11 am #

    And if I hear one more n*gg* say CONVERSATE…I’m telling you i’m catchin’ a case! how about that?! :)

  11. Melinda on 02 Dec 2007 at 4:27 pm #

    Dignity and Pride.

    Two of major attributes that’s missing from our culture right now. And it affects all classes of us. We are at the point where we continuously make poor choices and then point the finger at the other man. We have our hands open for handouts, we avoid character building and follow get rich quick schemes to avoid hard work. Instead of improvising and creating on a daily basis we have now been converted to consumers who define our self worth to what we can cop. We have dug such deep black hole inside of ourselves because we are so filled with self-hate….

    At least on Good Times…there was dignity, pride and self-respect. Virtues that are no longer valued in the black community.

  12. IVENTBYBLOGGING on 02 Dec 2007 at 11:35 pm #

    ^5 Melinda…when Esther Rolle was approached with the role of Florida Evans they wanted her to be a single mom. She put her foot down and INSISTED on the Evans family being headed by a husband. Norman Lear acquiesced and thus James Evans!

    Good for Esther Rolle! may she RIP

  13. 6ftandsxy on 03 Dec 2007 at 12:00 pm #

    Good points but why the comparison to the Huxtables? I do think that Good Times was always a good portrayal of black family but the comparison to the Huxtables in a way to make it sound like ‘oh the Evans are the REAL black family’ is part of the problem. Because the Huxtables were not poor means they are not a ‘real’ black family? I don’t get it. Not saying you used the word ‘real’ but your comment leans that way a little. BOTH had 2-parent units, BOTH stressed the importance of education, the Huxtables reminded the children we’re they came from and that their wealth was earned and not given. Someone said that the issues the Huxtables had shouldn’t be considered real problems..huh? Because they have money means that their issues aren’t really issues? I don’t understand why we dismiss the Huxtables.. do we think that low of ourselves that a black 2 parent strong educated wealthy family unit is that UNREALISTIC and NOT REAL?

    I’m with IVENTBYBLOGGING, if I hear one more person use COnVERSATE, I’m going to scream. Just pour gasoline on me and light a match so that I can just die if I hear it again! UGH!!

  14. jamdonaldson on 03 Dec 2007 at 1:54 pm #

    I never said that the Cosby show was unrealistic, I think it was a very accurate portrayal of middle class black folks. Note, I am coming from a pop culture angle. And in popular culture when you ask about black TV families, the two most popular families are, generally, the Evans and the Cosbys. I think the Cosby were a fantastic and necessary portrayal of black life and i never bought the argument that it was unrealistic.

    In my post I mentioned the comparison between the Cosby’s problems and the problems of the Evan’s family. There is no doubt that affluent families have problems and serious ones. But problems of that gravity were rarely talked about on the Cosby show. No one got on drugs or died or got pregnant or joined a gang or got molested or smoked weed or got hooked on alcohol or had girlfriend that shot up heroine in the bathroom. And thats fine.

    Im just saying that Good Times dealth with more serious problems that people of all classes deal with. But I think that was a sign of the times as well. TV and music were very socially conscious in the 60′s and 70′s. The Cosbys were more of a feel-good comedy and a great one. And there’s nothing wrong with that. They were also a sign of the feel good, prosperous eighties.

    I dont make a judgment about which was more realistic because our community definitely encompasses elements of both families. I simply said that, in terms of dealing with real life problems, the ones the EVERYBODY faces sooner or later, the Evans reign supreme.

    I used the Cosbys because they were so popular and represent another positive portrayal of a black family. I always thought the argument that the Cosbys were unrealistric was assinine and embarrasing. I certainly never said that so please dont put me in that camp.

  15. Jefferson Sergeant on 04 Dec 2007 at 4:15 am #

    I think the onus that is placed on every single image that involves Black people is so great; that the possibility of a modern Good Times is rather slim.

    At present, everything is either couched in terms of political correctness or an undue pre-occupation with how others view the Black community.

    If a sitcom were based around a struggling Black project family; I am sure that there would be critics who deem it as lowering the bar as an example for Black Youth.

    There are a wide variety of stories which can viably represent both Black life and Popular Black culture. What needs to happen is the allowing for these stories to be weighed on their own merits; instead of having the responsibility of representing an entire race.

  16. Jefferson Sergeant on 04 Dec 2007 at 4:21 am #

    I forgot to mention that no review of Good Times is complete without some conspiracy theories.

    My personal favorite. James was killed off because the system couldn’t afford the image of a strong Black male figure on the air every week.

    P.S. What good is a Black man without a healthy sense of paranoia:)

  17. Anonymous on 05 Dec 2007 at 3:18 pm #

    I love good times it reminded me so much of my family Florida Evans was sooo much like my grandmother we ate together, went to church together the whole family dealt with everyones’ problems i mean they had plenty of chances to make it out the ghetto the wrong way but they did the right thing and in the end they made it i was so disappointed when the show ended … thank God for DVD i have all seasons and my kids love it !!! cool commentary

  18. Anonymous on 05 Dec 2007 at 8:04 pm #

    Why did you have to include the statement about Thelma, “She was about to marry that African fool…” Why does he have to be an “African fool,” as if his culture has to be associated with foolishness. How ignorant. I pretty much hated that particular show because non-Africans created this stereotype that all “Africans” look, act, eat, and do these exact things. Just like the stereotypical “Coming to America” movie. That is one thing about the majority of Americans, which is that they don’t have a world view of other people, lands, culture, etc.- – well that is due to the educational system. It seems that even you bought into it.

  19. Jennifer on 06 Dec 2007 at 3:04 am #

    Anonymous, Thelma WAS about to marry an African fool – a fool who happened to be African. I think his name was Ibe (pronounced eBay). I want to say the guy was from Nigeria, but I could be wrong.

  20. Anonymous on 07 Dec 2007 at 5:31 pm #

    That was truly an excellent post!
    Wonderful insight… and filled with truth!

  21. Anonymous on 12 Dec 2007 at 4:52 pm #

    what an excellent post! Thanks again Jam, for doing what you do. I could not agree more, Good Times was so real and so important, like other posters here have said, there are strong reasons why we can still watch this show on tv to this day!

    All the “coon” shows on UPN are just that, modern-day pickaninny fests where all the characters are just ghetto-dwellers in better clothing.

    One thing, I would not call the Huxtables “middle class” — Cliff was a Medical Doctor and wifey was a lawyer, whcih meant that they were pulling down some serious bank, they’d be upper middle class or upper class for sure

    as such, I felt that their show was just goofy, I mean who actually lived like that?? I never wasted time watching shows about rich people on TV, black or white

  22. Kim on 22 Dec 2007 at 3:31 am #

    I always thought Good Times had it right.

  23. HouTX-Writer on 24 Dec 2007 at 12:08 am #

    “Good Times” had it right, and so did “The Jeffersons,” “Sanford & Son,” “What’s Happening,” and (drum roll, please) “Benson”. All of these shows showed different aspects of Black life and Black families living in different economic classes.

    “The Jeffersons” were an upper class married couple who were friends with an upper class mixed race couple. The mixed race couple had a daughter who looked Black and a son who looked White and they dealt with those issues on air. The maid was strong minded, but did her job well. Their son was militant at times, successful, respectful and loving “Sanford & Son” showed a Black man raising a Black son successfully, on his own, after the death of his loving, long-time wife. He might’ve been a silly man, but his son had great morals and a ton of common sense. He had a hooligan friend but never let that friend’s antics lead him astray from what was instilled in him by his parents. He also took care of his father at all costs. “What’s Happening” showed a single Black mother with two kids…one a charasmatic nerd, the other a mean but loving daughter, but they loved their mother! They had friends who were goof-balls, but they all came together to conquer problems. They had a positive place to go hang out in the “hood that was ran by a tough-as-nails waitress who helped guide them when they were away from home. And then, there was “Benson” which was about a gentleman’s butler, who, though he played the role of a domestic caregiver…something Black men are too proud to be nowadays…to a powerful White man…HE RAN THE SHOW! The White man looked to his butler for advice with his children, his career, and his dating life. He ran a tight ship and had so much dignity and class. You saw he had a career he gave his best to and didn’t feel as if he was being treated “less than”. He was revered in the household by those who worked with him, the kids, and the head of the household.

    OLD TV wins by leaps and bounds over today’s TV options. Diahann Carroll won a Golden Globe 1969 for her lead role in the TV series “Julia.” Today, we have “I Love New York”. Who says we’re progressing?

  24. Anonymous on 26 Dec 2007 at 3:50 pm #

    I’ve always for as long as I can remember have had negative feelings about Good Times. It always seemed like they were forever doomed to a life of poverty. I never looked at the positive aspects of their family. Thank you for pointing them out.
    Today there is only one show that I feel represents us positively is Lincoln Heights. Thats the only show we as a family will sit down and watch.

  25. Gabby's World on 03 Jan 2008 at 3:05 am #

    Damn…..did it again…GREAT PIECE!!! The very images we holler about needing today were front and center in 1975.

  26. veganenigma on 18 Jan 2008 at 1:47 am #

    Bravo! This is my first time reading your blog, and this one touched me. I watched the same marathon and I wish I got a chance to grow up in an era in which, babies out of wedlock were taboo and families still ate together. I was born in 1985 so I never got a chance to watch Goodtimes when it was on air but I will say after watching an episode I wonder what my daughter will think when she looks back at the generation I was raised up in… or maybe she’ll be watching Goodtimes too…

  27. Chicagobro on 20 Jan 2008 at 4:21 am #

    You are 110% on the money, sista. The only thing degrading about “Good Times” to us was that horrible ass theme song! “Hangin’ in a chowline”? Damn, damn, damn!

  28. lluvthissite on 25 Mar 2008 at 10:50 pm #

    What’s funny is that the very same things being said about today’s shows, ie House of Payne;One on One, etc; that is being said (by some of the posters above) are the same things that was said about Good Times, back in the day. Sometimes it just takes time. They each say something different, and that’s what people in general are — all different with different stories, different messages, different thoughts and ideas. Learn to Embrace them all for what they bring to the table.

  29. quianal on 22 May 2008 at 6:20 pm #

    I’m so glad you articulated it this way.
    I grew up (in the ghetto) watching Good Times and their life of poverty was never an issue among the watchers I watched with.
    Only when I started to watch an episode with my (now)ex-husband did a discussion about negative/stereotypical portrayl of blacks ensue.
    I wish at that time (I was in my early 20′s, with not enough life experience) I had enough experience to have been able to articulate it to him as you have done here.
    This is an excellent blog.

  30. Anonymous on 31 May 2008 at 4:52 pm #

    Just wanted to add Roc to HouTx_Writers’ list
    loving the blog by the way…

  31. Anonymous on 15 Jun 2008 at 11:56 pm #

    Some earlier mentioned Good Times was created by a white person – look it up on Wikipedia. It was created by Michael Evans (yes, that name), who played the first Lionel Jefferon on The Jefferons. Sadly, he died young.

  32. Anonymous on 19 Jul 2008 at 3:08 pm #

    Wow, JJ looks black as hell! And I can’t believe the guy who played James Evans is still alive? And who’s that other guy standing next to him and behing Winona? Bookman? And little “Michael Evans” looks old as hell! Shit, the only one who still looks good is “Thelma.” And what kind of hairstyle is “Winona” wearing?

  33. AngelaNo Gravatar on 03 Mar 2009 at 11:02 am #

    I was just re-reading this post which is great and it got me thinking why is it that while the CW is remaking all these crap shows from the 90′s (90210, Melrose Place) why isn’t anyone at least attempting to do a remake of A Different World. Think about it that one tv show for me growing up did not just show black students attending a historically black college instead, they were young people with goals and aspirations to make it beyond what they knew. I would rather know whether Dwayne and Whitley’s son or daughter is attending Hillman or is Olivia from the Cosby Show there, and who is taking Freddie’s Place as the advocate of going green.

    Have a blessed day

  34. JNo Gravatar on 10 Dec 2009 at 10:45 pm #

    CW is defintaly remaking a old shows. I really had a good time growing up with this show. Every once and i try and find some old reruns but never have any luck. These days, i don’t watch much tv, but find some comedy in the shows like the office, and community.

  35. maryanne georgeNo Gravatar on 22 Dec 2009 at 10:12 am #


  36. king on 18 Feb 2010 at 10:53 am #

    The show was great, but at the same time the reason where the backlash came from is that although there where truths in the show it focused on the negative or “keep it real” issues of the time. Which is great but at the same time as far black geared media as an artform creatively it put us all in a box, which are still the same issues we deal with today. Instead of us in envisioning us in projects lets envision ourselves in space in our great past or in scifi or polictical movies etc. Thats where the backlash stems from because whites have the opputunity to do all media objectivly completly absent of truth reality or personal experience. Thats creativity and freedom. that isnt afforded to blacks if all people are interested in is seeing them portraying the same images and experiences. with that sad as a black man, my least favorite charcter on the show was James with all of his helplessness, and the way he always took his problems and dissapointments out on his wife and kids, that was pitiful, even IF it was true, it definitly was not Healthy for others to see that image of an angry helpless father who couldnt ever get a break, perpetuated shame on the producers.Thats why the actor who played him left. Get FREE ya’ll…

  37. king on 18 Feb 2010 at 11:00 am #

    PS. Watchin james cry about losing another job, done tore up the whole house, now hes a mad mad man, now an why he always lookin’ like he gone whoop on esther roll? The madder he get, the more she beg? James Threatened by JJ cause he got talent? Sister pretty but she just a colored gal? etc etc…This shit is primitive. An its us stiffling us, but hey this was 20 years ago, I just hate these images. There I said it. Problems, problems, prayin to the lawd to come out the sky? Stupid…

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